Posted by
Joyanna Adams on Wednesday, October 15, 2008 11:28:20 PM
Nobody Wins: Here is my two nobody cents on the last debate;
Update: They're sitting down!
Bob: First question (nobody wasn't ready, I'm filling up my drink)
McCain; Nancy Reagan, and people are hurting! We're angry...okay. Wow....(BEEP)...buy all those great big homes that the poor people got into by default, and make the poor middle class pay for them! (Wrong ANSWER JOHN!)
Obama; Obama is looking at camera. Obama has ugly tie. Focus on jobs. Tax credit for jobs. Tax cut for people...(John is blinking, and blinking) Oh...oh...Obama wins on this one....
Wow...Obama goes into energy? What?
McCain: Hey, McCain knows a plumber! Poor plumber is going to have to pay more taxes fixing toilets! McCain threatens Obama with Joe the plumber...that a boy John!
Obama; Obama says we both want to cut taxes...Obama gives tax cut to 95% of Americans. What he doesn't say is that the other 5% don't even live here! Obama cares about the plumber, and the teacher, and the caretakers....
Update: Somebody call Joe the plumber and ask him to tell us the truth!
McCain: is asking why would you want to raise taxes?...good one John.
Obama: Obama mentions his friend Warren Buffet, who just bought half the govenment and would have bought more if he had the money!
The people can't afford food, because Warren has all the money.
McCain; McCain tells us that businesses pay too many taxes, he goes to first! McCain's on first.
BOB: Subject...deficit. Trillion dollars...Hey, you guys are going to add money to that...what say you Bill?
Obama: Ultimately tax payers will get their money back...then I'll spend it. He wants to pay as you go....we need to eliminate programs that don't work. He wants us to invest...(say what?) Invest in young people...pay for their college. Right. Sure.
McCain: Comrade John goes back into the redistribution of money to pay off all those houses. BAD. Wants spending freeze. Sounds good, but doesn't the Congress have to vote on that John? He will save billions in defense. Hey, he's against ethanol...John's slidding into second. He will fight for line- item veto, (but that won't pass.) WAIT...Obama wants a three million dollar planetarium? Doesn't Chicago already have one? What, is this for him personally? Is he expecting company? McCain did good here.
Obama: Earmarks are one-half of one percent of the Federal Budget? Did he count in AIR FORCE ONE'S gas bill? Really, where does he get his figures? That makes it okay?
McCain: I'm not BUSH..(.that's good John. Quit blinking.) John is being a bit more forceful...that's good. He's got a better tie. Obama is making FACES! He's smiling.. GO JOHN!..he's starting to look nervous!
Obama; He voted on tort reform? Who knew? Obama got a bit lost, so he's coming back to comparing Bush to McCain...glad though that John showed independence on torture. Mentions eight more years of the same thing. (some old stuff)
McCain: I've disagreed with Bush, and you can see my scars! YES...John...is winning this one, with his tenacity.
BOB: You guys have been nasty...go on and apologized...(BOB...stupid question, really stupid.)
McCain: I asked for more debates...where was he? John Lewis attacked them...George Wallace...(go for it John. Go for it. John quit blinking!) Obama is shaking his head, but look at his eyes...he didn't expect this. He looks furious.
Obama: (Boy, he collected his cool pretty fast.) Two-thirds of the people think that McCain is more negative. 100% of his adds are negative. (The difference is, the liberals have their 'goofers' attack...like Larry Flint...etc.) He changes the subject AGAIN...economic...Obama wants to get you off all his criminal buddies and back on his propaganda..Knows he has a sore point here...just change the subject.
McCain: Attack ads from Obama, Obama is spending millions on negative attacks...well, he's right...hey Joe the plumber is BACK!
McCain makes good comback.
Obama; I wasn't aware of what my friends do!(cough, cough) Obama is reaching...McCain is laughing, I don't know who coached John, but he is doing much better...Obama goes on his speaking abiltiy, but can't refute his points, so he changes the subject and goes back to the "issues."
McCain: he is sticking up for the people that come to his rallies...JOHN makes it to Third! He has repudiated against people that say nasty things, Point: McCain
Obama: Wants to lift up wages that have declined over the last eight years? Try the last thirty Obama...since the 1970's wages have not gone up.
McCain: Senator Clinton: we need to know about ACORN...(hey, he's going for the throat by using Hillary!) Obama is shaking his head...Look at his eyes! McCain goes Home! One to nothing.
Obama: Ayers is a professor, I was eight when he bombed. Clinton did not inhale (sorry couldn't resist) Hey, there were other people on the boards when I served with him! He's not involved with me. Acorn...had nothing to do with us. (cough, cough) I represented them only once. (Okay, most of us who read, know he's lying, but how many will believe him?) Obama once AGAIN..changes the subject to foriegn policy. He looks very mad.
McCain: You received money from ACORN...John is laying out the facts...go for it JOHN! John is stopping the knife, and changing the subject...John won this one.
BOB: Running mates...talk about them.
Obama: Joe Biden commercial---he has never forgotten where he came from. Father lost job...(ah) fight for the little guy. Passed the crime bill and put those cops out on the street. He shares my core values. Message: Joe will help the poor people. Switches to energy independence...Obama is doing the old liberal trick of change the subject every time he opens his mouth.
McCain: Palin is a role model. She's a reformer. Palin's record far surpasses Joe Biden's, Joe put out a few cops, Palin won over the oil guys, gave people tax breaks, special needs...autism...McCain's pick should actually be the President...but nobody asked us.
Obama: Obama doesn't attack Palin, autusim will require more money. (What a joke, he wants universal health care and he attacks Palin for that?) Lame.
McCain: Joe Biden has been wrong on many foriegn policy moves... he voted against all the war issues, and he was wrong. McCain wins. Then HE changes subject...we don't need to spend more. Obama wants to rasie taxes...good change.
BOB: Energy, oil...would you give a number on how much we can reduce our dependence?
McCain: Build 45 nuclear power plants right away. (Good point.) We can store. Nuclear power...flex fuel...(I'm having trouble with this stuff, because it's complicated) but he did a good job.
Obama: Ten years we can do it. He looks at camera...that's always effective. Oil companies should use land they have now. We can't drill our way out of the problem. He's into Solar...(won't work Obama...my neighbors porch lights don't even work) We invented the auto industry he says (.there's that Harvard education)...NAFTA was bad (thank you Clinton) redo the trade agreements...should have been done forty years ago...both parties will never do this, empty...but effective. Obama scores because he knows the American people have finally figured out what our politicians of both parties have been doing to us for over forty years...selling us down the road. Nevertheless, the Democrats will do nothing about the trade stuff. They get their money from the same people.
McCain: Previous agreements are bad. Obama has never been to South America. We need to stop the flow of drugs. McCain...is a supportor of the North American Territory...so this is not good. Obama is too, but he will not mention it.
Obama: We have to stand for human rights? (Where in the world did this come from? I thought we were on energy?) Does he mention China? Enforce unfair trade agreements...he goes into the automakers...car dealer are in trouble..wants to give help to them too. He wants to make them do MORE environmental mandates...(oh, that will work)...hey, they are gone. Meaningless arguments.
McCain: Ahhh, Obama wants to meet with Chevez...John gets another hit! McCain wants to retrict trade and raise taxes, compares him to Hoover. Obama laughs. mmmm...just how smart is the audience?
BOB: Health care...
Obama: I was in Toledo...two women, laid off, no health insurance. Looks at camera. If you have health insurance you can keep it. They will lower costs...by 2500 per year. (how is he going to do this?) Then everyone else who doesn't have a job, gets the insurance that the Senators have...(.HEY...no fair! If you have a job, you get an inferior plan!) More money in preventive care...Wow...FUBAR
McCain: Yes, admits the costs are horrible. Community health care centers. (WRONG this is being set up for illegal immigrants) 5,000 refundable health care...(Huh? Both plans stink. You know what back surgery cost? $70.000?) McCain is saying he has universal health care...McCain is losing this one.Because he hasn't got a real plan, or he is not explaining it very well.
Obama: He is misleading his plan. His is just a first step...Hey, he's talking to JOE the plumber again! I'm not sure I can follow what he is saying...both candidates are being very nebulous on this...they have no clue. McCain is smiling.
McCain: HEY JOE! Joe is rich...(I need new pipes Joe) you have to pay a fine if you don't provide insurance...well, Obama did not mention this, and McCain is right, most people don't want to be fined for not being able to afford insurance. It's not working in Mass, he should have mentioned this. Okay, now he is saying that the 5,000 is for their health premiums, that'a more clear. McCain is finally making a better point. The size of government grown by 40%...good point. He cleared that up somewhat, but it's still not enough from either candidate.
Obama; Wait, he said that McCain plan is HIS...what? The Chamber of Commere is against McCain? (Yes the Chamber of Criminal Commerce is responsible for your NAFTA dearies too...well that's mean John wins!)
BOB: Supreme court...litness test.
McCain: He's a federalist. Nominees based on qualifications. McCain voted for Breyers...? Whoa, Democrats will like that. Obama votes on his beliefs. History of constitutional judging is his basis. Point for John, that's how it should be.
Obama: Fairness and justice. Forget the Constitution. And Fairness and justice can mean just about anything to anyone. Brings up abortion, women have the right to it. Democrats will like this one. States should have no say. (wrong answer for conservatives) Ohhhh some lady wanted to be paid for equal pay, but the Supreme judges said they wouldn't hear it? (PLEASE) Obama got in his abortion and his equal rights for women...still looks tired.
McCain: statue of limitations. (lady and Supreme court evidently waited fifty years to bring it to the court, who knows) We have to change the culture of America..VERY GOOD JOHN..good sentence. Obama is shaking his head...John is going for the throat again, sighting instances that Obama voted for killing babies in late terms...Obama is smiling...and he looks like he's getting beaten on this one.
Obama: He's trying to get out of this attack. Wasn't his fault, there was a law on the books...parital birth...now he's for the health of the mother and approves of it...this could hurt him, with independents. Prevent women from getting pregnant by teaching them at five the facts of life...(just kidding, but NO, I'm not.) Obama can't get out of his past...McCain wins on this one.
McCain: We have an adopted child (do many know that she is black?) Help young women...Good conservative point.
BOB: The US spends more on educations than anyone...but we trail all countries...what will you do?
Obama; It's a big problem (thanks to the Democrats) More money or reform (both) Loves early childhood education...Hillary's plan to become France...more teachers...the fault is the teachers union so Obama's plan will not change a thing, just get more kids and get them younger in order to make good little Marxists of the state. Liberal nonsense. Propose 4,000 to kids for community service (comrades! )
McCain: Choice and competition...(come on say it...get the govenment out of our schools John, break those unions...get rid of the Department of Education John.)..okay...John is talking... throwing money at it is not the answer...John wins on this. Get the military people into being teachers. NOT a bad idea John.
Obama; We have a tradition of local control of schools? (Where the heck has HE been! We have NO say in our schools...NONE...NADA! Every school should provide whatever the gov says. Obama is starting to look tired, John looks fresh, and biting at the bit...who knew? (Nobody can afford the prices for the ridiculous fees for college. Good god...a book is over 200 dollars.)
McCain: D.C. has good system, attacks Obama on his lack of knowledge on voucher system. Liked Head Start. Reform it he says. He's right...but now he is talking about autisum. Going into vouchers...
Obama: Admits D.C schools are bad...Disagrees with vouchers...all other fifty states will not have vouchers under McCain...He loses on this one...that's an absurd statement...lame.
BOB: closing statements gentlemen;
McCain: Difficult times (stop blinking John) I will reform. Weak closing statement so far. He needs a bigger ending. ( Come on John, put some emotion in it.) Can you trust us?(no) Don't ask us about your record...we have lost many freedoms because of you...(sorry)
John does good throughout the whole debate, but his ending is miserable.
Obama; Obama looks tired. Mentions ecomomics...here we go, attacks Bush, mentions "Change"...this is his "repeat" it enough, and everyone will buy it speech. Everyone will go to college, I will grow the middle class, business, it's not going to be easy...you will have to come together, and sacrifice...I will work for you...his closing statement was better...but full of promises (and BS) that he can't keep of course. Still, he lost the debate, but won the closing statement.
McCain goes and shakes his hand, clearly feels he won.
Update, Cindy has red dress, you can't help but stare...good choice. Michelle has blue dress, and somekind of necklace that could have come from am Irish parade ...We find out that Joe the plumber is real. "When you spread the wealth around it's better for everyone"
That's what Obama said to Joe the plumber, which explains why Joe was in the debate..Joe will be a rich man now.
I'd say that McCain won...Obama looked tired, and his points on his many plans were pretty...meaningless to the average nobody. He is going to put those little kids in school...
Now, Fox is saying that McCain did not have a knockout punch...so, you see, it's all smoke and mirrors. In fact, Fox, and CNN say that Obama won...everyone is saying this, when clearly it isn't true.
If you like me think that McCain clearly won: remember: the networks choose VERY carefully the tools they use to force you to beleive whatever they want you to beleive. Like those lines under the candidates..the polls, the audience after the debate...can all be staged.
Just remember that, and you'll be okay. It can be edited.
To me, this whole Presidential campaign has been about keeping the people's attention on a "contest" every single day, so that the North American Treaty can go through (notice no one discussed the invasion of another country) and the global merging of the banks could be brought into play...keep us occupied...and the companies who own CNN and FOX and their advertisers, by running a two year campaign have made a BUNDLE with the viewership, which probably made American Idol looked lame...follow the money...
McCain did the best tonight that he has ever done. He scored on all points except when he was trying to explain the medical stuff, and his lame ending. I wonder what the talk show hosts will do with this, and if it will matter at all.
In the end, the blacks will vote for Obama, patriots will vote for McCain due to Palin, and the rest will probably stay home...unless we get attacked before the election.
Now, just what are all these stations going to do after the contest is over? What's going to fill this great gap?
I frankly, don't want to know.
Hey, I'm off....I have no idea if I did this right...but it was fun!